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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2015.10.09 03:18:54 -
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Only buff command ships need is a change to off grid boosting :D
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
691
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Posted - 2015.10.10 03:05:18 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:
You don't fly Command Ships at all, do you? And if you do, you definitely don't use it for combat.
PEW! PEW! PEW!
I love command ships. Had full L5 for all leaderships and hulls plus fittings before I could fit T2 turrets. This picture is a fave of mine. I play eve for fun, so I brought em on roams. Hell, full tank config, I loved attracting agro. Meant they were shooting at toughest hull on grid instead of the damage dealers and logi. On grid also meant I wasnt having to warp around to evade scanners. Links dont work in warp. I like that current tactics means that a T1 frig can completely take command ships out of the fight.
Sides, on grid is more fun!
Scipio Artelius wrote:
While changes to OGB might hopefully eventually happen at some point or not in the near distant futureGäó, I actually hope it's a lot more creative than simply bringing links on grid.
edit: probably shouldn't have even mentioned that tbh. This is a thread about Command Ships, not links.
They are closely related. Command ships used for command do very well. Not sure what people want until their role gets improved. Most every command complaint relates to or can be remedied by something separate from the hull
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.10 13:42:19 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:
If they protect themselves, one more high to make that a reasonable expectation. The additional mid? I guess if shield tanking. If armor tanking then a low.
Fighting in one of these? I always thought that was a bit odd. CS should be almost purely a support ship, with enough tank and oompf to protect itself should an engagement start to go sideways. The ships it supports should be providing the firepower and protection (to state the obvious). There really are better ships to fight with.
Maybe it's not a good idea to view the requirements of this ship in terms of solo PvP, or using it as a main damage doer. It'd be a shame to lose any of it's support function to such cross purposes. One size fits all usually doesn't fit anybody.
An additional tank spot would be nice if nothing to encourage squad on squad instead of blob combat comes up.
If there was to be a short term change, I would make ganglink bonus have a falloff based on range. This should be no problem, even OGB. Buff mid and low, happy. Expand and focus on the command ship functionality. Heck, I have, for a long while, thought that tactical overlay should be removed from default and reserved for command ships or similar.
Want damage, isnt that what the smaller, and faster HACs are for? More combat out of them just means they are overshadowing another role or just not being used for current role. Want high damage that can take a beating while tackled? Isnt that the role of T1 battleships?
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
693
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Posted - 2015.10.10 16:24:01 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:I was thinking about that new idea for the fleet MJD action. Why not put that into command ships and only give it to fleet positions? IE you need to be in a command position in a fleet and in a command ship to use it. Would bring back the need to keep your commanders alive and give a reason for command ships as a whole to do the "command" sort of thing like their name would allude to.
Just a random thought of the day.
Okay, as far as good ideas go, that one rates pretty highly for me.
Give command ships the more advanced fleet warps and the like? That would be pretty awesome.
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
695
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Posted - 2015.10.11 17:48:39 -
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Kaldi Tsukaya wrote:The problem with links is the Command Processor.
Either limit 1 per ship, or else make a low-slot CP available to balance shield/armor tanks on Command Ships.
Limiting the fitting will also reduce the T3C OGB issues.
Well... That goes back to the OGB. Most subprocessor fit T3 and command ships are frail and would not last on grid if more than one. However, back in my final days of nullsec, I flew a command archon. Heavy tank and supportt for the logi carriers, etc. Needed the subproc.
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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